Justin Sun wants him to travel more. But there is too much to do.

“There are too many exciting things happening in crypto every week,” he said in a December interview with Coindesk at home in Hong Kong. “I don’t really take holiday time. It’s hard to get away for a week.”

If Sun took an extended vacation, it would probably be for Mars, he said. But only for a two -way trip.

“I think the only one [that] Can change the meaning of crypto is Mar’s investigation, ”he said.

Tron’s founder says crypto trade would be tough on the red planet as its distance from the ground means a significant delay. “I won’t die on Mars.”

But it wouldn’t be as bad as trade in coinbase in 2013. It was the early days when order books were thin and before matching engines were invented.

“In 2013, if you wanted to sell Bitcoin at Coinbase, they made you wait a week to find out if it was selling,” he said. “You had to set a price range and they would notify you later of the sale and the final price.”

“It was like being on Mars.”

All crypto

You can see why Sun doesn’t have time for travel.

The throne founder is merciless. Since the founding of blockchain in 2017, Sun has established himself as one of the most influential people in Asian crypto. His X account has 3.7 million followers. Tron has 125 million active users. More than $ 50 billion in USDT is traded daily on the network.

Around Sun there is a universe of affiliated and advised companies such as HTX (Exchange), Bitgo (Detention) and Rainberry (formerly Bittorrent Inc., which has a crypto connection, although it is a P2P file sharing service).

Still, when Coindesk created an interview with Sun, the idea was to see if Defi’s face in Asia would talk about something other than crypto.

There is definitely more for the man than digital assets, right?

We gave up ten minutes.

For sun, everything in life touches crypto, and Krypto touches everything in life.

Even art.

Sun, an avid collector, owns works by Picasso and Warhol. He recently bought and ate a $ 6.2 million banana that was part of a work of art called “comedian” that knocked fun at the concept of modern, expensive art.

Which turned out to be a Bitcoin metaphor.

“The banana wallpaper for the wall is not about the physical works of art itself. It is a concept, a picture rather than something physical,” he said.

“When I first learned about Bitcoin, I thought it was cool because you can pass customs without anyone knowing you are bearing wealth. It’s freedom. The banana has the same effect.”

Except if someone eats what Sun did.

“This kind of conceptual art is new to regulation. It’s not about the physical piece. It’s about the concept,” he said. “Regulators do not know how to handle it, just as they do not know how to handle crypto. No matter what laws or regulations you impose, you cannot prevent anyone from taping a banana to a wall.”

Gaming is not escapism

Back IRL, Sun has a soft place for the Caribbean. Thanks to his occupation of Tropico, a world -building simulation game in the tropics of the Cold War, it is a region he visits as a virtual dictator under the rules of the game. But the sun prefers geopolitical neutrality.

“I run a neutral island and rejoice both the US and the Soviet Union by giving every island to their military bases,” he said. “Because, why not? They pay me for it.”

Sun says he is a PC Maxi and not a console player. It’s Steam for him, not Xbox Live. Apart from Tropico, he is a fan of the turn-based strategy game Civilization IV. He once played for 24 hours in a row.

“Another trip, another trip,” he still said. He finds the game addictive because it reminds him of what he does in the real world.

Justin Sun is not universally loved in the crypto world. But few can look away.

“Justin Sun is like a Game of Thrones episode,” says the man himself. “Whatever you think of him, keep looking at.”

Recently, he ried Bitcoiners through his investment in Bitgo, supporting wrapped Bitcoin (WBTC), a piece of trade infrastructure that allows liquidity of Bitcoin on DEFI.

Almost immediately, after it was announced, Sun’s toughest critics came out of Woodworks with all kinds of crazy accusations.

Coinbase, which has its own wrapped BTC product, delisted Sun’s version, with reference to its “listing standards.” Sun and Coinbase are now continuing their argument in court.

Bitgo CEO Mike Belshe called Sun’s highest critics “intellectually dishonest.” They all had their own token to pump, he claimed.

Back to Game of Thrones.

In the first season of the show, it seemed that the authors created the character of Ned Stark as a lead – until he was beheaded at the end of the first season.

“I thought, ‘This must be a mistake. Someone will come and say it’s all a misunderstanding.’ But no … he was really gone! ”Is how Sun remembers watching the show.

This surprise hooked the audience and made Game of Thrones one of its highest ranked shows in the network’s history, beat Sopranos and kept viewers glued until the end.

To really understand – and judge – Sun, just wait for the last episode.