One day you are out of a job. So will I, so will your neighbor, too, your best friend, and so will your whole family. All of our jobs will be automated thanks to AI. This is the prediction of Shaw Walters (which in web3 style typically just goes by “Shaw”), founder of Eliza Labs and the creator of Elizaos.

“We want to automate all jobs. Like all jobs will be automated,” says Shaw. “There will be no job. And there shouldn’t be it because every job that I can get a robot to do is beneath me. And I think we’ll look back at this time, as if we’re looking back on slavery. As” what the hell did we do? “

On stage at the AI ​​summit at Consensus 2025, Shaw unpacks this theory in a keynote speaker entitled “How AI agents and Humanoid Robots will reshape society … and why crypto is key.” Here he gives a quick sneak peek.

Interview has been condensed and easily edited for clarity.

What is excited you most about AI agents?

Personally, this is a kind of selfish search. I don’t like sitting at my desk all day with my shoulders rounding off and becoming this troll that encodes all day.

What I want to do is put around and ask my agents to do things and code for me. Coding has come to the point where I have another window and I just encoding Gemini in the cursor. I just start talking and saying, “Hi, that’s what I want. I want you to change this, this and this,” and it just starts to go.

And why can’t it just be embodied? Why can’t I just go down the street and talk to my agent and it writes my code for me? Why should I sit here glued on this desk? So I really want to remove the box user interface personally for myself and have my agent with me everywhere I go. I can just call it if I have an idea. That responds to my e e -mail.

What do you think will be the first murderous use for agents who really go mainstream?

Well, definitely coding. That’s already the first case.

Fair. But what about norms, for non-coders?

Good for us [at Eliza]These are social agents. And then I run a remote team and DAO Community, right? We have 20 people who come to work every day and develop code. I have a group chat right now of eight people. And we have 20 channels on discord and we have a telegram. So we have all this communication that happens in all these places, and we have these very obvious problems that everyone else has. I don’t know what’s going on in most of the chats. I don’t have time to read most of it.

I would love if it was just summarized for me. They should be like “Hello, what’s this guy working on right now?” And it’s like, “Oh he was working on this. He answered this.” Great. So we have a bot that does just that thing. It checks in with each single employee every day and gets one [status update] From them. And it tracks every chat and all our digital spaces and summarizes everything.

Why in your mind is crypto crucial to this larger vision of your AI agents? Why is web3 needed?

I think it’s very obvious that it’s hard for me to give an agent a paypal account. But I can just turn up a wallet for this agent and that agent. I could build a game where I’m like “I need 10,000 wallets.” Because what I really do is give an agent the opportunity to prove that it is in itself with a cryptographic signature tool, just as I give any other user. So agents are just clerks to other users and they get the same benefits that any other user does.

But I think there’s a bigger question here about why crypto at all? And I think the reason is because I think we should be able to create our own money. It is not a power that we should necessarily give to states, although states have the ability to enforce it by force. So there is a bigger question about what is the war we are fighting here?

This is something I want to share in my consensus speech. We will automate all jobs. As all jobs will be automated. There will be no job. And there shouldn’t Be, because any work that I can get a robot to do is beneath me. And I think we will look back at this time, as if we are looking back on slavery. Like “What the hell did we do?”

We all got to work for dollars with all their time. It’s crazy for me. They should have pursued their passions. They should have asked, “Why are we here and what are we doing?” They should have formed their own basis for spirituality instead of just going to work every day. And then, in that reality, yes, there is a big problem.

I can think of a few …

If there are no jobs we have no money. But in fact, none of the rich people in our country have jobs. How do they make money? They invest. And I think this is the world we have to live in where we are all investors and none is a worker. It’s just crazy to me that we live in a world where all the rich are not working, and yet we think it’s the way to get rich.

I am trying to visualize this. It’s crazy to imagine a world where no one has jobs and all work is under us.

It is inevitable.

Are we writing poetry all day? How do we fill our time? What does humanity look like?

Okay, let’s say that you have somehow received an air drop that you have put into a project and now you have something like $ 80 million value of value. What would you do? What is your next move?

I can see where you are going with this. So the idea is that you think about what your passions are and how you would spend your time if you had unlimited money? And then that’s what you would do in this world where all jobs are automated.

Yes. I would be on my computer and work at AGI. I would work on it all day.

Let’s go there now. What is your guess on when we get to Agi, or if are we coming to agi?

What is agi?

[Both laugh.]

So does Agi mean for you sentience?

Well, my favorite period of time was that AGI is the thing that computers can’t do yet. What about that?

It’s a bit of Zeno’s paradox, right? It will forever be outside its grip.

Yes, we have normalized the fact that, like me, I can talk to chatgpt on voice in my phone and get immediate answers to almost everything. As we sit here and have chatgpt do tarot readings and give us answers to how “Magic: The Gathering” works.

Wild Times! Thanks shaw, this was fun. See you in Toronto. Cant wait for your speech.

Jeff Wilser hosts the AI ​​summit in Consensus 2025 and hosts People’s AI: The Decentralized Ai Podcast.